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6 by 6: may 2008

1 |   In a word, how would you characterize yourself before your loss, and then after?

Bon :   Me.  And then...this broken, bitter, vulnerable open wound.  Now...me, tempered.

Janis :   Half-asleep. and then half-awake.

Julia :   Prone to occasional fits of complete happiness. Then: raw. Now: aware.

Kate :   Oblivious. Then roughly awakened.

Niobe :   Before: sad. After: sad

Tash :   Young, very young.  Then old, very old.

 

2 |   How do you feel around pregnant women?

Bon :   In the early days, like their bellies were sharp as knives.  Now...i am one, yet again.  And still i feel different, utterly alien in the world of benign joy and expectation.

Janis :   Whole mixed bag of contradictory feelings. awe, dread, grief, etc

Julia :   If she is one of ours-- bereaved, infertile, or just someone who gets it-- protective and apprehensive. If she is "the other," like I am in a mine field. Them I try not to talk to much. Or at all.

Kate :   Filled with dread on their behalf.

Niobe :   Terror. What if the same thing happens to them?

Tash :   Blinding jealousy, anger at my limitations, fury at general naivete.  Can’t stand ‘em.


3 |   How do you answer the 'how many children' question?

Bon :   If i think i'll see the person again, i may answer honestly.  Usually, i just mumble.

Janis :  Depends on where, who and when and my mood. And how strong I am feeling in that moment. I hate to cry in-front of others.

Julia :   We have one living child. This is almost a dare, and a damn fast way to see what the one asking is made of. Or to at least to get them thinking about what they might hear next time they ask personal questions.

Kate :   It's completely random depending on my mood and my take on the person asking. Sometimes, I need to speak his name.

Niobe :   One.

Tash :   Depends on the day, the person, the conversation.  I wish I had a pat answer actually, because sometimes the pause is a bit disconcerting to the listener.


4 |   How did you explain what happened to your lost baby to your living children? Or, if this was your first pregnancy, will you tell future children about your first?

Bon :   He was my firstborn.  With his younger brother, we mention his name, look at his trees in the backyard...but have not yet reached the place where there have been questions or stories, so it feels forced, a little, and sometimes like fiction.

Janis :  We told the girls that Ferdinand's heart stopped beating and he died and cannot be with us in the same realm. But he is carefree, living amongst the stars and always near us. And always in our hearts.

Julia :  We said "he won't get to be born" (long story about relatives and semantics), and two minutes later she asked "Did he die?"

Kate :   When it happened my older son was just two. One day he said quietly from the backseat, out of the blue, that Liam didn't need a carseat anymore. I told him that was true, that Liam was a star in the sky now. He is three now and I don't think he explicitly remembers anymore. That's fitting for now, but it makes me sad.

Niobe :  I didn't have to say anything. He already knew.

Tash :   The baby died, she was very sick, and she can’t play, eat, drink, sleep, or cry anymore.  No, we can’t take the milk to the hospital and make her better, we can’t bring her home, she stopped breathing.   We need to remember her now.  Why does Mommy have salad on her boobs?  Good question.


5 |   What would another pregnancy mean to you, and how would you get through it—or are you done with babymaking?

Bon :   Doing it now, for the third time since we lost him.  One living child and one miscarriage in the interim, and one currently stitched-up cervix, a lot of bedrest, and twenty-plus weeks still to go.  It's an existential mindf*ck, like being a marionette strung between poles of hell and hope, jerking, without any control.  And yet it is a gift.  Sort of like a pet grenade.

Janis :    Gosh... after this loss of innocence I think the next pregnancy will be hellish. Every second  a moment of dread; a threshold to the end(death). Yet, I feel defiant about it too. As in, I want to rejoice every second and not let this get me down.

Julia :   Also doing it now. Calmer than I thought I would be. Except when I am not. My hope is tiny and doesn't speak much. Love and fear are big, but spend much time in their respective corners. The mindf*ck for me is that very raely does love get to stand up without fear coming out too. But I don't know that I could handle this if I didn't let love in. Many more weeks to go.

Kate :   Another baby would be some kind of dysfunctional redemption. Even though our loss was due to a rare form of twinning that's unlikely to strike twice, my husband says that if I want to get pregnant again I'll have to find someone else because he'll be busy running away to Mexico.

Niobe :  I'll never be pregnant again.

Tash :   Another pregnancy would mean I was comfortable playing Russian Roulette with the Universe.  And I’m not that brave, yet, plus I’m old.  I may be done.  Blogposts forthcoming.


6 |   Imagine being able to step back in time and whisper into the ear of your past self the day after your baby died. What would you say?

Bon :   Keep going.  And do not be so afraid to speak his name.

Janis :  I really dunno. I could not think of an answer for this one.

Julia :   It will get much worse than you think. The person you think might be an ass, will be. A lot. Trust yourself. But give yourself time. More time than you think you need. A lot more. That going back to work soon thing? Rethink it.

Kate :   I'm proud of you (for being brave enough to witness them, to love them in ways that were tactile for them, for changing the diapers of two two-pound babies. For finding the voice to sing to him on his last night).

Niobe :   People are going to say a lot of things to you. Every one of them will be a lie.

Tash :   Point is moot, I wouldn’t have listened anyway.  But I suppose on my way out the door while I was giving myself the finger, I’d yell over my shoulder, “You’ll meet many people who will understand, and who will bring you great comfort.  Oh, and yes, you’ll have sex again, speaking of which, I’ll see myself out.”



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My answers to these questions are on my infrequently-updated blog.

May 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKirsty

I answered in my loss blog.

May 5, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJayme

I've just answered the 6x6.

May 5, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBusted

I have answered in my blog

May 5, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterg

http://mandella0021.livejournal.com/476706.html

May 5, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJEN

http://theroadlesstravelledlb.blogspot.com/2008/05/6-by-6.html

May 5, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterloribeth

My response is here.

May 6, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterCDE

Just answered the 6x6.
http://lifecanbeashit.wordpress.com/

May 6, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBrenda

I've answered the 6 by 6 - don't know how to do the link but it's here:

http://quietsanctuary.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/114-6-by-6/

May 7, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterM

I've done the 6 by 6 thing, too.

http://myresurfacing.blogspot.com

c.

May 8, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterc.

I don't have a blog so I answered my questions here:

1
Q. In a word, how would you characterize yourself before your loss, and then after?
A. Before: estatic. couldn't believe I got pregnant that easily. I didn't think I could happier. After: foggy. Could find my way out of the greyness.

2.
Q. How do you feel around pregnant women?
A. The more pregnant they are, the worse I feel. I really feel empty around them. Sometimes I still rub my belly just to make sure I'm not pregnant…and its been a long long while.

3
Q. How do you answer the 'how many children' question?
A. One. I haven't figured out how to cope with the honest answer, which will inevitably bring up lots of questions or at the very least blank, nothingness stares.

4.
Q. How did you explain what happened to your lost baby to your living children? Or, if this was your first pregnancy, will you tell future children about your first?
A. Our 1st child was 1.5 when we lost our baby. I didn't think I would have to have this talk until much later in life when she would really get it. But lately, she's been saying things like, "my sister died' or 'I miss my sister' so I may have to have a samll talk with her after all. They absorb so much and sometimes you just don't realize how much.

5.
Q. What would another pregnancy mean to you, and how would you get through it—or are you done with babymaking?
A. I cannot have more children which makes our situation all the more painful. I never wanted Emma to be an only child. Sometimes the pain I feel for her in this respect is too much to handle. My sister and I are so close. I feel I have failed to provide her with that type of relationship.

6.
Q. Imagine being able to step back in time and whisper into the ear of your past self the day after your baby died. What would you say?
A. Don't care about making others feel comfortable with your pain and grief. And also, when the nurse asks if you'd like a picture of your baby girl, say yes. 1.5 years from now you will be glad you have it.

May 12, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMichele

I can't answer these questions, but I wanted to add my perspective to question four, as the daughter of a mother who lost her baby.

My brother Dean died of SIDS at two months old when I was 25 months old. He would be turning 32 this September. I was too young to really understand what had happened and I only seemed to rub salt in the wounds by constantly asking "where's the baby" at first, but I've always known about my brother. There was never a time when my parents sat me or my sister (who was born twenty months after Dean died, with a miscarriage between them) down to tell us we once had a brother. We grew up knowing about him and for that I'm thankful. He has always been a part of my life despite him being here for such a short time.

I asked my mother how she did that, and she said that she'd talk about Dean a lot when we were little and answered any questions we had as age-appropriately as possible.

When we were older, we didn't talk about him as much. I know I didn't bring him up because I was afraid I would hurt my parents, as if I was opening old wounds. As if those wounds had healed.

But when my parents were out of the house, I would often take his baby album off the shelf and look at the few photos we had of him. I would talk to him. I realize now that my mom probably did the same thing.

A few years ago, I was given a photo album that belonged to my Nana and in it were some photos of Dean and me. I look at those photos all the time now. I am so thankful to have photos of my own of him.

Since becoming a mother two years ago, I've started talking about Dean with my mother more. It's been really great for both of us, I think.

My parents were visiting last week and over dishes I asked my mother if it was hard to be around my boys because of Dean. She said no, not at all, not my boys, and I was relieved. We were quiet for a moment and as she dried a plate of mine with yellow flowers on it, she revealed that small yellow flowers always made her think of Dean. Her eyes were watery then and so mine became so, too. I am so glad that she shared that with me and I think she was, too.

I'm not sure why I'm writing so much here, but I guess I just wanted to let you know how important it is for the siblings of your lost babies to keep talking about them. They are important to us, too, even if at first we are much too young to understand.

May 13, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterm

I did it. You can find it here.

http://hopefulmomma.blogspot.com/2008/05/6-by-me.html

May 28, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMonica h

Oh bugger, I tried to add a reference, but it seems to not being showing up here. But I answered the questions at http://wabi-sabilife.blogspot.com/2008/05/6-x-6.html

May 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterWabi

I like the 6x6 idea, could I request a new one soon?

June 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGeorgia

That's a great idea Georgia, we'll work on it. And if you have any suggestions for questions, send them our way.

June 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterkate

I finally got my response finished and posted on my blog. Our Own Creation

June 12, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterA.M.S.

I did the 6x6 too.
http://rememberingshannonelizabeth.blogspot.com

June 17, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterliz

my 6 by 1 is here

June 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterChristine

I have answered as well:

makeustronger.blogspot.com/2008/07/6-x-6.html

July 9, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterg

oops, wrong month :)

July 9, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterg

finally posted.
cannot for the life of me figure out how to post this in a link. grrr.
http://morethanatata.blogspot.com/2008/07/6-x-6-may-2008.html

July 11, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterheather

I posted my answers on my blog:

http://withouttwins.blogspot.com/2008/07/6-x-6.html

I'm not sure how to make it a link. Great questions to think about.

July 12, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterReba

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