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Jan232009

What dreams may come

I don't tend to remember dreams. I used to say I don't dream, and then I learned that we all dream, but unless we wake up at the right time in the sleep cycle, we don't remember what it was we were dreaming about. So now I use scientifically correct terminology-- I don't tend to remember dreams.

The times I have dreamt of A? That I remember? I don't even need one hand to count. And never have I seen him as an infant, either the way he looked when he was born or as an alive one. Since I am by nature not an easily guilt-ridden parent, this does not usually cause me angst. I don't even know if I ever felt envious of the bloggers who have had these vivid live baby dreams-- the practical side of me kicks in right away with the "how hard it must be to wake up from a dream like that."

The times I have seen A in a dream? Well, a number of times before he was born. When I owned up last year to knowing he wouldn't be staying I left one thing out-- the dreams. I saw him in my dreams, a couple of times, while I was pregnant with him. Never as an infant. Always as a little boy, always in a distance, with a full head of curly hair, never looking at me, always running away. If this was a part of a storyline in a book or a movie, I would roll my eyes. Too much, too thick, too manipulative. But, as Mark Twain famously noted, fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth-- not so much.

A was born with curly hair. Tiny little waves of hair, perfect little squiggles, all wet from the birth, all over his perfect little head. And in one of the only dreams I remember from the weeks after, he was still running away, but this time he stopped and turned his head to look back.

 

My boys are different people, I am sure of it. Was sure of it the whole time, from before I was ever pregnant with the Cub. (Though who can really say how much of this surety is a pushback against the idea that a living baby fixes the grief and the griever-- one of my absolute favorites, that.) And even if I wasn't convinced of A being distinct from any future baby just on general principle, there would still be the part where he was running away from me in the dreams. That's not to say that I think that bereaved parents who believe that the souls of their children who are gone come back to them are wrong. I am, as with so many things in this grief world, agnostic on this. For other people. Not for myself. My boys are distinct.

And actually, since I was so sure that if we were to have a living baby it would have to be a girl, I considered the whole question, as it relates to me, purely theoretical. I think I was even a bit smug about that in the privacy of my own mind. Obviously that is not how it went. Though now that it went, now that I am getting to know the Cub, I am ready to attest with even more conviction-- they are different.

Except... Except that once in a while I think back to this other dream I remember from the early weeks. Well, "remember" is a bit strong there. The dream that was capital W Weird. Spontaneous human cloning-- oh yeah, baby! I dreamt, as far as I can remember, because it became hazy within minutes of waking up, that there were some cells left of A's placenta, and that at some point one of them went all pluripotent and created another, genetically identical pregnancy. This is both bizarre and absurd. So much so that I think I knew even in the dream that I was, in fact, dreaming. I certainly knew it the very moment I woke up (behold the power of years and years of my not entirely wasted edumucation). In the end, though, after I dismissed the literal scenario of the dream, in the end I had this unmistakable feeling that there was something tangible, something physical left. Even if I couldn't touch it.

Curiously, this dream happened only days before one of the handful of dead baby bloggers I was reading at the time posted about the research that showed that fetal cells can enter mother's bloodstream and remain there for at least 27 years. Physical indeed.

 

So what about you? Do you remember your dreams? How much attention do you pay to them? Do you dream about your dead baby? Do you want to?

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When I first slept after losing Charlotte, night after night, I would lose her again. She was on the operating table, her heart was broken. She was being given up for adoption. The plot changed every night, but each theme was the same: she was there, I could almost reach her, but I would not be able to keep her. My heart broke again and again each night. These dreams lasted for maybe a month.
Later, she would appear again, but I could never see her face. In the dreams where I knew it was Charlotte, I was always aware of how amazing this was that she was there with me. There was almost a conscious effort to stay asleep and keep dreaming, lest I lose her again. I dreamed these dreams mostly in the first year.
One dream that I have always remembered was one where a version of myself, about nine years old, was swept away in a crowd, a stampede of sorts, on a dusty Mexican road. The adult me watched helplessly, groping and grasping to try to make my way through the crowd as I saw her being swept away. I could not reach her. I sat down in the dirt and cried. Two friends laid hands on my back, shrugging their shoulders. Oh, well, they said. At least now you know what happened to her. When I woke I imagined that my subconscious was seeing Charlotte as a miniature of me.

The last thing I will say about dreams is that the real recurring dreams that I have which are "about" Charlotte is that I constantly dream about drowning. Charlotte died during my labor from a cord accident, which occurred when my water broke. Somehow, my little, struggling subconscious has equated her asphixiation at this moment to drowning, and my dreams follow suit. Every other month or so another one comes, usually one of my living children, somehow submerged, and I am trying to save them. I never get far enough into the dream to actually complete the rescue. But they drown over and over again.

(Needless to say, in real life, they are both enrolled at the YMCA in swimming classes and will probably never be allowed in a boat of any kind)

More than anything, I wish I could really, truly dream of Charlotte. I wish I could experience her in a dream. I wish she'd just be there, to be a big sister to Liam and Aoife and for me to hug and kiss and do something normal with. I'd like to make her scrambled eggs, and try to scrub a grass stain out of her pants, and to tell her not to pick her nose. I'd like to tuck her into bed and make her laugh. I wonder if those kinds of dreams are just, well, dreams.
January 23, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCarol
I have rarely dreamed of Noah since his passing. The most significant dream was very short and simple. I was on a small airplane flying over an unknown city. In my arms was the most perfect baby. It was Noah. No tubes, monitors, or any kind of medical equipment. He was healthy and swaddled in a simple white blanket. As we flew over this city, I cradled him in my arms. In my dream, it was so serene and peaceful. The clouds surrounded us. In a way, I wondered if I was delivering him to heaven. Airplanes have been symbolic for me in regards to Noah. The twin's nursery was decorated with whimsical airplanes. He took two plane rides in the first month of his life. Mostly, when Monkey and I sent balloons to Noah for his birthday, an old antique plane flew over the cemetery very low. In a way, it was Noah saying hello.

I used to pray that I would dream of Noah. Now, I have accepted that this is not how he speaks to me. Sometimes, though, I still close my eyes and hope for a glimmer of him.
January 23, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJennifer
One of the biggest problems I am having is that Aeryn is not "here" anywhere that I can sense her - not in dreams, not holding her little things or even her urn - nowhere. Nor that first baby, the one that sometimes I wonder whether I simply imagined the entire pregnancy because nobody but me mentions it anymore.

I say I have difficulty sleeping but the truth is I mainly avoid sleep until I'm so tired I won't awaken. I don't recall dreams because I quash them with an iron fist.
January 24, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKatherine
When I can sleep, I dream of my boy often. While I was pregnant, although I wanted a girl, I dreamed of being pregnant with a baby boy, and boom! pregnant with a boy. Now, I dream of him being an infant, and taking care of him- nursing him and co-sleeping with him. Sometimes I relive being pregnant with him- shopping for things for his nursery. I always wake up with that melancholic feeling, waking up to a harsh reality, when I'd much rather be in my fantasy dreamland, with him.
January 24, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterFunsize
One dream I remember vividly in the first few weeks was picking up a very wet baby off a change table and not being able to get her dry. I had so many towells, but she was so wet. Maybe like Carol, it is that feeling that she was asphixiated at 40 weeks of pregnancy, I don't know. Lately, I also dream a lot of breastfeeding. So much milk spills from my body in my dreams. Sometimes I am trying to nurse a baby who just wont take, other times I am sitting pumping litres and litres of milk but there is no baby to drink it. Just after the birth, I'd often wake to find I'd actaully been leaking my last remnants of milk as I dreamed. Not suprisingly, these dreams are really upsetting. I just feel so cheated after carrying Hope for 40 weeks and 5 days, I never got to do that thing I was looking forward to so much.
January 24, 2009 | Unregistered Commentersally
in the beginning i wanted to dream of her. i wanted to dream of her every night, to at least have that time with her, to just pretend, to suspend disbelief. i had two dreams. that's it. and they were really, really good, even if weird in content. i wanted to have more so desperately, which is probably why i didn't.

these days it would probably kill me to dream of her. i expect to start having the positive-pregnancy-test dreams soon...those really suck. luckily i wake up continually from a sore be-hind (pio shots).

today, i daydream.
January 24, 2009 | Unregistered Commentercharmedgirl
Well here you go, yet again stealing a thought that's been spinning in my brain for months that I've been meaning to dump. /wink

I've only had one dream of Maddy, and it was a nightmare, and had to do with medical people asking me for more medical information (in the dream, I essentially birthed her, and watched her die, twice). I often wonder why this is, and why it's hard for me to even imagine her here now like so many seem to confidently be able to do. I think it's because she was born with so many problems that living -- growing -- opening her eyes -- running -- walking -- laughing was a complete impossibility. My subconscious seems to have accepted that totally. She will forever be frozen as a six day old infant with a multitude of medical issues, and I guess my subconscious finds that particular dream a bit grim.

I don't carry much guilt either, but sadly my dreams (and daydreams) before her arrival never extended much beyond her actual birth and the surrounding weeks. I was so mentally and physically exhausted from being pregnant, and knew that actually having her was the only chance I'd get at having an excuse to lie down and my husband to stay home from work. I wonder if something in my mind actually knew not to run this tape forward.
January 24, 2009 | Unregistered Commentertash
With RPL, pregnancy and dreams took on a new dimension. My track record not being so good - I didn't care what the doctor said my stats were, I still believed there was more a chance I would miscarry than I would go to term. That said, my subconscious had plenty of fuel for some interesting dreams. While pg, I would dream constantly about miscarrying - always bloody and always with my emotional reaction. After a loss - they would get a little strange sometimes. Waking up because I thought I heard a baby crying (one night I was so out of it that I actually got up out of bed and went to the room that would have been the nursery only to find only boxes. I crawled back in bed just crying and my arms physically aching) I didn't remember all my dreams, or even details. Sometimes I knew I had dreamt about babies, my babies - but all I could remember were my feelings in the dream. So, I would wake up feeling whatever I had felt during that particular dream. Sometimes, I actually woke up crying. I had recurrent dreams where I was looking for something I had lost, had to get somewhere - running, desperate to get there because someone needs me and I can never get there. Some of the worst ones were about losing my living children - they never simply disappeared, it was always in awful ways. I always woke up from those crying and absolutely terrified. Lost and running - two big themes. I dreamed of holding them, singing to them - but never really dreamed "them". Beyond ultrasound photos and the one poor wee baby I delivered at home at 12 weeks, I never got to see them in person - so I had no real life images of their faces to parlay into memories/images for dreams. Dreaming about them mostly did not upset me, though did a bit at first. After a while, it just sort of became my way of spending time with them, since I didn't get to in real life. So, even though sometimes those dreams left me feeling sad - it was still bittersweet to have them.
January 24, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJuliaS
I've only dreamt of her once since her death. She was healthy and alive and 9 months old- just like she would have been. I looked at her sweet litle face and I realized that no one had been taking care of her. Guilt and shame overwhelmed me. She hadn't been fed or changed in days. I had been living my life as if she had died when really she was here all along and being completely neglected. I wrote "Remember to feed L" on 3" x 5" cards and posted them all over my house to remind myself to take care of her. I promised my husband that I wouldn't forget about her, that I would be a better mother.

That's about the time I woke up. I literally didn't stop crying for days.
January 24, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterG.
I don't dream of Teddy much, but I dream fairly often about losing him, or I have dreams where I know he's dead and miss him just as I do when I'm awake. I did dream, once, that he'd been born and the nurses wouldn't let me hold him or take him home because I'd done something wrong while carrying and birthing him - a disapproving nurse held him wrapped up in a blanket and I could just see the very top of his head as I tried to bargain for visitation privileges.

I'd give quite a lot to hold him again, even for a minute, even in a dream.
January 24, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterErica
Tomorrow it will be 2 years since the day I said hello and goodbye all in a breath to my son.

I have had 2 dreams in that time. The 2 sweetest dreams I ever did have. I long for more.
January 24, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCarly
i wished for a long time that i could dream of Finn - at any age - the way i still occasionally dream of my grandmother and wake almost feeling as if i've been with her. but i never did.

last fall, though, about a year after i found out i was pregnant with the baby i m/c, i dreamed that i was in the backyard of my childhood home, with two little boys who were my sons, clearly my sons...but in no way Oscar. (like you, i have always been sure that my boys were different). there was a flood in this backyard, and the boys, one a toddler, one a baby, were playing around a picnic table we sat at and suddenly i realized they were drowning. i threw myself under the picnic table and i still remember the feel of their little bodies in my hands, slippery, me desperate. then i woke up. and i wondered, for the very first time, if my lost ones had come to me in my dream.
January 25, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBon
I have had one vivid dream of Hannah. I was looking at her picture in the dream, and then suddenly I was holding her. She was still "sleeping" as I held her, but then she suddenly opened her eyes and stared at me. She had beautiful blue eyes. Then my dream was over. I assume she did indeed have blue eyes since both my hubby and I have them, but I wish I looked at her eyes to know for sure. I don't even know if that would have been possible since the autopsy report said her eyes were fused shut. Anyways, I was a mess for days after that dream. It was both a blessing and a curse.
January 25, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCLC
I never remembered my dreams before losing Ezra. Now Ezra passes through my dreams, fleeting, just like his life. No matter what age, he is also smiling. But he's never there long enough.

But as I blogged about recently, mostly I dream of other babies...at my breast, in my lap, at my feet....hopefully Ezra's sibling on his or her way...at least one day.
January 25, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterEzra's Mommy
In the weeks and months after we lost Indigo I would dream about her birth. Horrible, traumatic.
January 25, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterkimberlee
I have yet to dream of Calvin. I wish I could. Every part of me longs to hold him one more time, even if only in my dreams. Some nights as I drift off to sleep I concentrate hard on thinking of him, of the six days he was mine. I see his beautiful little face in my mind's eye, remember how wonderful it felt to hold him and run my lips over his head. It's only been two months since he died so maybe the dreams will come someday. Maybe it's just my mind protecting me from the last vision I had of him, in his casket and the horror I felt as I went to lift him up and felt his body cold and hard. I wish I could share what happened then but it's still too horrific for me to put into words, for weeks after I couldn't get that vision out of my head. Upset with myself for spoiling all the beautiful memories I have of him with my greedy need to hold him one last time....
January 26, 2009 | Unregistered Commentermargaret
The very few dreams I have had of Molly and Joseph have only been bizarre, or even upsetting- never comforting. Because of that, I think I am thankful they happen so seldom.

Margaret- there is nothing greedy about a mother wanting to hold her baby one more time. I think it would have to be the natural feeling in the world. I'm so sorry that last moment has left you with such disturbing memories- that is so unfair it is beyond words. I'm so sorry.
January 26, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterLori
I walk and talk in my sleep - have done so since I was a kid. My parents and one brother also walk and talk in their sleep - genetic, maybe? About four days after my daughter, I, died, I woke up on my knees, with my hands shoved down alongside the bed, next to the wall. I was panting and crying, and totally convinced that she had been sleeping with us, and that I dropped her, and she was being crushed to death. Fast-forward a year and four months - her brother, C, is with us - alive and well. More than once since his birth I have woken up shouting at my husband to get off the baby, and he replies that our son is safe in our bed, to which I respond in a panic, "not HIM, the other baby." Eight weeks after our son was born, my husband went to Guatemala for ten days. One of those nights, I woke up barefoot on the front porch, about ready to walk out into the snow. I was crying and my heart was pounding because I was sure I had left the "other baby" in the car and she was freezing to death. I went inside to get some shoes on, and that's where I woke completely and realized it was a dream. I think these dreams have something to do with my deep-seated belief that my negligence was the real reason for our daughter's death. I haven't had one of these nightmares in a couple of months, but I expect they will continue to reappear when she is on my mind.
January 27, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHMC
I have had a handful of dreams about Sadie, but each time I've laid awake immediately afterwards wondering if they were simply insommnia-induced memories. They were all about our time in the hospital, mostly her last hours.

I would love to have one happy dream, where she appears as perfectly healthy as she appeared while we were at home.

I certainly daydream continuously.
January 27, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJen
Interesting to read this post today.

It's William's birthday today. He'd be 5. And even though I knew it was coming up, certainly my thoughts have been elsewhere the last few days. Then last night, I had a dream about having a baby. Small baby. (About W's size when he was born at 27 weeks) I was alone for this birth process and couldn't remember what to do. And I was tired. So, I put him back. Back through the birth canal. For safe keeping or something. And then I went to sleep. The next morning I reazlized he wasn't moving anymore and then I realized I'd accidentally killed him. Smothered him. I was trying to keep him safe and killed him.

The dream puzzled me this morning. Then a few hours later, I realized it was his birthday and it made a little more sense.

I can't even say for sure how I feel about this dream. The feeling I had wasn't one of desperate grief. It was of pure stupidity. As in "DOH! Bec! Why did you think that was a good idea. Of COURSE he can't breathe in there once he's born!"

But, since the only place I held him alive was inside me, it makes at least a little sense.

I have not had any dreams of him being alive. Only dreams of loss. And plenty of them.
January 27, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBecky
Reading these posts, I suddenly remembered this middle-of-the-night experience from many years back, when I awoke to find my husband sitting up in bed, turning his pillow over and over, over and over again.
"What are you doing," I asked.
"I can't find her", he said.
"Who?"
"Charlotte. I can't find her anywhere." Then he lay down, and continued to sleep. I stayed awake for a very long time.
February 1, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCarol
Reading these posts, I suddenly remembered this middle-of-the-night experience from many years back, when I awoke to find my husband sitting up in bed, turning his pillow over and over, over and over again.
"What are you doing," I asked.
"I can't find her", he said.
"Who?"
"Charlotte. I can't find her anywhere." Then he lay down, and continued to sleep. I stayed awake for a very long time.
February 1, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCarol

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