Regrets, I've had a few
I saw her literally the moment I found a seat, on the floor in the very back of the room-- I was late and the room was full. I hadn't expected to see her there. I hadn't really expected to see anyone I knew there. It was a talk on raising bilingual children, held at my old Alma Mater, where I also worked for several years, until the summer after A died. I'd forgotten her husband's first language wasn't English. But had I remembered, I'd still not have expected to run into her-- I would've assumed that she'd graduated already. Instead, there she was, having made it to the talk early, judging by the seat she had-- one of the best in the house.
Casey was a TA in the class I ran the spring before A was conceived. About half way through the semester I began to suspect that Casey was pregnant. About two thirds through, her bump made all speculation mute. She was a good TA, even if not particularly an extra mile kind. But then again, in hindsight it's tough going an extra mile through the early pregnancy while you are TAing a big class and working your tail off in the lab too.
The moment I saw her was palpable, a mini lightning bolt; in my head, certainly, but what felt like inside my chest cavity too. Way beyond your standard issue butterflies, this was real anxiety-- throat grabbing, stomach tying, air rarefying split second of oh, crap, I'm so not ready for this. I wasn't sure if she knew, and thought that she likely didn't. I was pretty sure she knew I was pregnant, though-- I remember running into her that fall, right as she came back from maternity leave. By that time I myself was unmistakably round, and going to the bathroom so many times during a workday that I was sure that alone fulfilled my daily exercise requirement. So that's where I ran into Casey one day that fall, and that's where she filled me in on the somewhat complicated childcare arrangement they'd hobbled together for her son, who she was totally in love with, and that's where I told her I too was expecting a boy.
There are certainly people who saw me pregnant who didn't remember later. In their defense, those people were meeting me for the first time then. Casey, on the other hand, knew me before. I was pretty sure she remembered. I know, I know-- unless you are a celebrity, and TV takes care of announcing your comings and goings, chances are there will be people who won't be up on your news, fresh and not so much. And there will be new people you meet who won't know. And so from time to time you will be in a position to decide whether or how to tell someone that your child is (or your children are) dead.
Telling people is a staple of our early days as bereaved parents. It's a large part of why many of us would rather not leave the house. But somehow we do (tell)-- often we send emails, or ask friends to pass the news on,-- and at some point we do (leave). And eventually the telling, if it happens, is mostly to the people who didn't know us before. To them our babies become dead a split second after they first come into existence as mental images, right after everyone's favorite word-- but. "I had a baby, but..." "We had twins, but..." "I was due in December, but..."
These hurt, of course. They hurt a lot. But they hurt differently than the early tellings. A while ago, Natalie talked about the early ones, about how when you do that, you get to see someone else's joy and anticipation for you shatter, the might've been crumbling into is. Again.
When I saw Casey from my ground-level seat that day it occurred to me that she just might be the very last person to have seen me pregnant who still didn't know. Sadly, it didn't make me better at telling her. Worse, it didn't even make me more prepared.
After the initial shock, I forced myself to concentrate on the talk, even though I kept stealing glances at Casey. She was knitting. Obviously listening, but also knitting. Which, I understand, betrays a certain level of skill. During the Q&A session, I asked a question, guaranteeing that if Casey hadn't noticed me before, she obviously would now. (Yes, not one of my brighter moves, I know.) Meaning that after the talk was over, I had no choice but to say hi, especially since the speaker was enveloped in a small crowd, and I was waiting until that receded so I could buy her book.
I'm a kind of parent that generally speaking does not do guilt. I make decisions and live with them. But that doesn't mean I don't have regrets. And I definitely regret what happened next. Because? I screwed up.
We started talking. About grad school (she hoped to finally be done this year) and work (I filled her in on where I've been), about the whole bilingual kid thing (she asked how well Monkey was doing with the Old Country language, and then how we managed to hold on to it so well). I asked about her son, and she told me they are having trouble because her husband, the one who speaks the foreign language to the kid, gets home on the late side. She used her son's name when she was telling me this. Same as A's middle name. I knew that, of course-- she's mentioned it a bunch of times, most notably that one time in TA meeting when everyone was teasing her about the possible nicknames, and she drew the line at one that, I admit, would've bugged me too. So I knew it, but it wasn't at the forefront of my mind right then, and so it packed a bit of a punch for me.
Maybe that's why I screwed up, because I was still off balance when the next question came. "So how old is your younger one now?" Or maybe I screwed up because of how the question was phrased, quantitatively, especially since we'd just listed Monkey's age, and her son's, causing my numbers-oriented brain to want to account for the Cub's age too.
What I said was "He died." And after the properly horrified I am sorries from her and her husband, and the short version of stillborn, 34.5 weeks, "But we also have a three and a half months old now."
I regretted it almost immediately. But? But? What the hell was I thinking when those words left my mouth? Spotlight shifting, minimizing, covering up the dead baby with the live one. Am I not the very person who insists, sometimes very loudly, that my sons are separate and distinct individuals, not to be confused or conflated? What I should've said was "A would've been nearly two now. Sadly, he died. We miss him every day, and love him always. We also have a new baby, who is three and a half months old. He is a joy, and we love him madly. But we still miss A. At this point, we are pretty sure we always will." There. Would that have been so hard? She asked about A, about the baby she knew about. And my answer should've stayed focused on him.
I spent the drive home thinking about what I should've said. I obsessed about it almost nonstop for several days after. It wasn't just that I minimized my own son-- the very thing that drives me crazy when done by someone else,-- I worried that I left a wrong impression about babyloss in general. I worried, and still do, that the way I spoke left the impression that the cure for dead baby blues is a live baby. An all too common misconception I am afraid I might've reinforced. Really, Julia, "but"? Real nice. Real smooth.
I considered emailing Casey to tell her what I should've said in person, and to tell her why it was bothering me that I didn't. In the end I decided it would be too weird. I still think about it, though, seven months later.
How did you tell people early on? Have you had to tell since? How does it feel? If you are that far down the road, how do you decide which of the new acquaintances to tell? Have you had your own Casey-- a person who last saw you pregnant? How did you handle that?


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In my head I have an appropriate, almost lovely and airy "Our son was stillborn." It seems "lovely" in my head because it's to the point and concrete. Once those scary and descriptive words leave my mouth it's smooth sailing--I could talk about him all day...how he looked JUST like his big brother, how his little fingernails were so tiny and perfect, how his loss has changed our lives forever and how we're somehow stronger for it. But I flub the first part with lots of "uh"s and "well" and throw in "stillborn" to ensure they grasp the finality of it all.
And when it's all said and done, I walk away feeling like possibly the very few words those people may ever hear about our son were shaky and horribly inept. I feel like I've done him a disservice.
I'm now pregnant with our third child. Often, people say to me "is this your first?" Because of course they assume (with no other child/ren) running around, that it is. I tell them quite brightly that we've had "bad luck" with our children, that I already have two children, but that they died, but that we hope for "better luck" with this third one.
I have learned to speak quite comprehensibly about my children (both dead and unborn).
I have regrets too. A pregnant lady at church said she lost one of her twins, was still pregnant with the other, and I said nothing.
Selfishly, I didn't want to discuss loss again.
I still can't believe I did that, and from a few moments later was wanting a way to say something but the conversation had moved passed it.
Now I'm wondering if a month later when we work nursery again is too late to say something.
Until it occurred to me that I never blinked an eye about scheduling my daughter's birthday parties on days that were not her real birthday, to accommodate our schedule, or our family's schedule. So why should we somehow be expected to live up to higher expectations for our son?
It often feels as if we must be better parents to our dead children, than to our live ones. There are lots of things I censor about my daughter when talking to people I dont know well, why should it be any different for my son? His being dead is just a part of him, as was the fact that he had his father's ears.
I now wish we would've put something in the paper when it was offered to us-perhaps that could have helped a little?
The thing I struggle with is this summer I've had to go to the dentist, the eye doctor, to get my haircut, back to the gym. to take the dog to the groomer. I never want to go. I cry like a baby, feel like stomping my feet and refusing. I wait until I know the place is closed, and then I call and leave a message telling what happened. Then no one brings it up.
I haven't been back to work yet, I am a teacher, but it was very publicly announced there. They stopped classes, had all kids go to their homerooms, so each teacher could read a statement and then the students could go talk to guidance counselors if they needed to. I'm nervous to go back-middle schoolers are so unpredictable!
Then I quit my part-time job as a receptionist because I didn't want to tell the story 50 times a day. That was simply sanity saving.
Then, about six weeks after the fact, my sister was in town, and we were going out for a drink. I ran into a friend I hadn't seen since he knew I was pregnant. He exclaimed, "How is motherhood! It must be nice to get out on your own." I quietly informed him what had happened, and we hugged.
I don't recall anything too terrible. Anything I should regret.
Except for having to walk out of my SIL's hospital room after she gave birth to a son a few months later. That hurt everyone, I think; I wish I could have acted differently. But I couldn't.
ciao,
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Perhaps this is a cop out? I'm not really sure. Mostly I'm just happy that I now have a choice in mentioning the loss, or letting it lie still under the cover of time.
And Sara I think that if you decide to share with the woman who lost one of her twins it'll be the right time. Like I've seen/heard a hundred times, a connection with another babylost mom can bring both sides back to the moment no matter how long has passed.
That's the crux of the "but" Julia references I think. It's not in reference to the child (not a "but look, we still have our daughter and she's awesome." because no. Just no. One does not cancel out the other.) The "but" is in reference to the sadness that comes of losing him. Yes it's sad; of course it is; it's crushing - *but* it hasn't ruined us. We are strong and we are standing and we are happy dammit, because we won't let his impact on our lives be anything less. He was worth too much.
I don't know. I have no grace in this but it's what I wish for - the ability to convey the hugeness of what happened in a dignified way that honours both him and the legacy he left us. I am so very bad at it.
I remember four weeks after he died being at a gathering at someone's house where I didn't really know many people and one girl asked me if my daughter was our only child. I believe my exact answer was "Yes. No. Yes. No. We had a son too. He died." Cue bursting into tears and feeling like a jackass ever since. I did talk to her later that evening and apologize for being unhinged and I explained things to her a little more - that it was four weeks to the day and stuff. She was lovely about it; very kind, but I still look back on that night and feel so awkward about it.
So, grace I think. For me the goal is simply grace.
I stupidly announced this pregnancy on Facebook at about 20 weeks (even though the pregnancy before this one ended in miscarriage at 13 weeks and I knew losses could happen at any time) and yesterday I finally got the courage to post a note about Sierra's death and birth. However, when I went on to FB to do it, a friend from college had just posted that she had made it to 28 weeks, almost the same gestational age Sierra was when she died (27w5d). I hadn't known that this person was pregnant, let alone that our due dates were only a few days apart. Ouch. I went ahead and posted my note about the end of my pregnancy, but now I sort of regret doing that because there is a whole group of people who are going to see this other person's news and mine back to back, and I feel like I've spoiled her happy news with my sad (and possibly upset/scared her). But then I think my baby deserves as much recognition as hers... What a mess this all is.
This post and all of your comments were so helpful to me, to see where I'm going and to hear that I'm not alone in the awkwardness of the telling.
Telling people the truth about what happened always feels very aggressive to me, quite confrontational. I don't like arguments and I don't like making other people feel awkward. So I end up lying about one of my own children because I'm embarrassed and a coward. Yup, real nice.
As I had the girls so early, a lot of people never even knew that I was pregnant or expecting twins. Towards the end of my short pregnancy I was huge, probably because of all the fluid accumulation, so many people didn't realise how preterm my labour was. I've had lots of hearty congratulations on my surviving daughter. I usually just say thank you. Yes, she is beautiful and yes, I love being a mother. All true. But not quite the truth.
When I was still carrying oxygen cylinders around and my surviving daughter was tiny enough to draw comments, I used to tell the whole preterm labour story. I almost wanted to tell it, just to get it out of my system. I don't usually now.
So it is only if people are quite persistent that I will mention my other daughter. Mainly if people want to know why I went into labour so early. Then I end up feeling as though I've gone into the cheerleader mode that Christy describes so perfectly above. I am desperate to tell people how both my daughters were wonderful and amazing. I also want to convey how lucky and grateful I am to have a surviving child from such a short pregnancy. But I think sometimes it comes off as "she-was-a-wonderful-baby- so precious- we-loved-her-so-much-it's-okay-it's-alright-we've-still-got-a-baby-we're-fine-don't-worry".
I think that is what most people think about me, that all that cheerleading stuff is actually the truth, how I feel. That my gratitude for J means that I've just forgotten that I had another baby. But here, here you know the truth. I miss her terribly. I still want to tell everyone about her but it just isn't the done thing and I'm a coward.
And, at least in my case, I don't think it's a misconception that "the cure for dead baby blues is a live baby." If I said "but I have a six-month-old," I would be doing so because I didn't want to reinforce the misconception that the loss of a baby is always and necessarily something that a parent can never get over.
I took myself off Facebook, didn't go back to any of the same shops, hairdressers or dentists for months on end. And at 11 months out now, I'm still not back at work. Too broken, and I don't regret this one bit. I'm now 20 weeks preg again, so I wont be going back until this baby is (hopefully) one year old.
I did have to tell one girl about four months out. I hadn't seen her, she doesn't know anyone else I know, she doesn't have my email or phone number and when she saw I was off Facebook, she worried. The last time I saw her I was 39 weeks pregnant and ready to pop. I saw her at the shops and she came towards me with that look "where is the baby!!!!!!!????????" then I burst in to tears and she just hugged me and sat with me, and asked me what happened - so I told her, and showed her Hope's photo on my phone. She then proceeded to tell me just 12 months earlier, she miscarried twins at 12 weeks. I had never known. I asked if she was going to try again, and she said she was 12 weeks preg again. Even under the circumstances, this was a bitter pill to swallow.
The only other person I have had to tell was my mechanic. I figured he was a guy, as if he'd remember my bump. But he did. And he asked just a few months ago "so how's bubs?" After my silence, he said "you did have a baby didn't you?" then I had to tell him, and his face dropped. He also proceeded to tell me he and his wife lost a baby many, many years ago, and that it still hurt today. I did feel good I could soften that blow with news of a new pregnancy. That did make it a bit easier.
I worry about the new people I will meet down the track, and how I will tell them. I think I will eventually, but I'm just so pissed it has to be like this. I wish she wasn't so invisible, as she is anything but invisible to me.
Ironically, my stepdaughter, age 10, got the question yesterday. A little of friend of hers in Florida, who she penpals with occasionally, remembered that our baby was due in July and emailed, "How is your little brother or sister?" Heartbreak.
It's helpful to hear all your responses. It makes me want to plan ahead for the times when the question will come. I hope to pregnant again sometime soon. I hope to lie down on the table for my ultrasound and brace myself for the nurse asking, "Is this your first?" I hope, like Christy says, I can answer with grace.
I have canceled a number of appointments........on Friday I will get my haircut. It has been 4 months and I desperately need to go but I know it will be hard. I will talk about Daphne, more than anything I want her to be remembered. I have realized in these few short months since I lost her that if I don't talk about her then others wont talk about her.
I just wonder if it will ever get easier? I am so tired these days and the grief seems to be so consuming. This space has offered me so much comfort in these past few months.
The thing that hurt the most was the silence which ensued after the email was sent. Friends didn't know what to say to us, so they said nothing. This email was sent to our closest friends, those who we thought would be supportive and would care. But almost no response to our email.
Because of people's silence, I later felt dumb for sending out the email. But inside I knew that telling them in person would only be worse.
Just a few weeks before he was born I saw an old friend at a Nutcracker matinee. She commented on my big belly and I made the mistake of telling her that our son would not live long. After that, because she didn't know what to say, she did not speak to me again, even though we were sitting right next to each other. Total silence. I should have kept my mouth shut. But how could I listen to her go on and on about how fun it was going to be for me to have another child running around?
Our society does not teach people to deal with grief. And for those of us who feel it, everyday, it's a lonely road to travel. And sometimes I hate it. But I will gladly walk this road just to have held my son for as long as I did. He was (is) worth it.
I love and appreciate the blut honesty of this site.
This is a great site.
(I've been sitting here for about 20 minutes now, trying to add to the above, typing and erasing, over and over. I think I fail, in that there's nothing to add. Which is something in itself, I guess.)
Those of you so very new to this world, and to us here at Glow-- Welcome. We're glad you found us. But oh, we are so sorry you have a reason to be here. So very sorry.
but now, it's a weekly occurance again. last summer we worked together at the farmers market. everyone saw me grow, and then the market ended shortly after silas was born and died. so many customers never heard the news. we started the market again about 6 weeks ago and every week at least 1 person asks, though at the beginning it was closer to 4 or 5. now it seems like almost everyone knows.
its never easy, but somehow i have learned to say that he died so matter of factly. everyone gets flustered about it but me. complications during delivery is what i usually say. its been a tough year usually follows that up.
no pregnancy yet, but we're hoping every month. then i know the next questions we have to deal with will be - is this your first? i think i'm ready for it.
I knew the question would come. I was prepared for it . . . someday. I had already promised myself that I would always talk about Gabriel and never deny his existence or his importance to our lives.
But the question came 8 days after his birth and death, when I was unprepared and my face twisted and I said 'No. No, I don't have any children.' And I knew how Peter felt, I guess. I cried the second I got to my car and for hours afterward. I told my husband as if it was a confessional, seeking absolution, and he admitted he hadn't told his office staff what happened or Gabriel's name. Just that I had lost the baby and he was going to be gone for a week.
When I was calmer, I was better able to reflect. I felt guilt, I felt I had denied him and I was angry and upset with myself. At the same time I could not simply throw him out there (at least that soon) as casual conversation like that. This woman was not an acquaintance or someone who needed to know or even cared much. As a friend later said to me, what would have been gained? Would either of us have been blessed by that discussion, would Gabriel's memory be honored by it? No.
Just as I protect his pictures, I protect him and I protect myself by not sharing him with everyone. That is one of the ways I am still his mother.
But yes, other comments have resonated with me. Watching people pull back as if I have some sort of contagious disease is difficult. Watching or hearing their grief (mostly as I still held his body in my arms) is difficult. There is often an urge to comfort them or reassure them, even though I am the one who has lost and needs the comfort and reassurance. It's hard. It is a hard line to walk, to determine who needs to hear about our beautiful son and when to keep silent.