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28Apr2008

how to stop lactation when there is no baby

A few of us have had the unfortunate and in multiple ways  painful experience with having to stop lactation after stillbirth or neonatal death. Here we pull together what we know, what has worked for us, what we learned later. If you have a reason to need this information, we are deeply, deeply sorry. If you are looking this up for your friend, your sister, your daughter, your wife, your patient, thank you for doing that, and please, tell her that we are sorry. And that when the milk being spilled was meant for your baby, there is every reason to cry over it.

Our experiences were different to some degree, so below, where applicable, we identify the person whose experience is relevant.

 

after stillbirth or very early neonatal death

[julia]   Nobody can tell you how long it will take to stop lactation, and it's different for everyone. It took me three weeks. Constant binding pressure was essential. I used a very tight bra, cabbage leaves therein, with another binding mechanism over the bra to provide the ability to put cold compresses in (I recommend bendable ice packs they sell for sports injury or frozen vegetables). And yet, that was not enough until over two weeks later I added sage tea. Around a week later, it was finally over.

Sage tea can be found at stores such as Whole Foods, with the herbal teas in the natural remedies aisle. It's not as stinky as you would think. After the first couple of sips it's even sort of pleasant.

It will be very tempting to let the hot water in the shower get directly onto your breasts, but please don't—this will stimulate milk production.

While you will likely want lactation to stop, it is not uncommon to experience deep sadness as it is finishing. That milk was the last tangible proof that your baby was here, and it is hard to see your body let go of it. I had a nightmare the night before my milk stopped for good that was unambiguously connected to the stop of lactation. As with everything connected to this experience, let yourself feel what you feel. Nothing about this means you are doing it 'wrong'.

[tash]   You will likely leak when your milk comes in. It's ok to leak right into the cabbage in your bra, and change it frequently. You can also use pads. If you are not up to buying breast pads at the store, you might consider just putting some maxi pads in your bra (cut them in half to fit). Please make sure to change them out every few hours when they get damp or you may increase your risk of infection. It's fine to just leak, but again, keeping wet clothes —especially cotton—up against your nipples like this could lead to a yeast infection. If you end up needing to express a bit, It's good whenever you do that to let yourself air dry and take the opportunity to put on a dry bra or shirt.

A quick and cheap way to make hot/cold compresses:  take two washcloths, dampen them, and put them in separate zip lock bags.  Put one in freezer, and microwave the other as necessary. 

Although you want to try and avoid warm water (hot showers), there are times when  little warmth can be a big relief. You may feel lumps forming in your breasts; these are clogged milk ducts and are incredibly uncomfortable and can become infected. Place a warm washcloth over the area for a couple minutes, and then massage the lump gently for another few. When finished, apply the cold compress.

[janis]   My midwife also said to add peppermint oil to the water, then make compresses and put on the breasts. That made me really cold and did not help. What worked for me- vitamin B6, 200mg for at least 5 days. it did not work immediately (and I don't think anything does)... took about 3-4 days to stop feeling like my breasts were going to explode, and after 5-6 days I was ok.

[A note from Julia: according to my search of the medical literature, you have to take high doses of B6, and if possible find the product that is mostly the pyridoxine form of this vitamin-- it is this form that in high doses helps to suppress milk prouction. Normal amounts of B vitamins in your multi do not work because they represent the normal amount needed for healthy development and therefore, do not influence the volume of lactation.]

I have also had luck with homeopathic meds for many things and I found out that BYRONIA ALBA, 9C, three pellets three times a day helps with engorgement. And PULSATILLA 9C, three pellets three times a day for overabundant milk supply.

 

a note on the pharmaceutical solution 

Drug Parlodel (bromocriptine) has in the past been widely used to stop lactation both by choice and following a stillbirth or neonatal death.  Most doctors and hospitals have now stopped prescribing the drug for lactation suppression because of a number of studies showing high rate of side effects. In one study for example, adverse events related to bromocriptine given to inhibit postpartum lactation (in women who experienced stillbirth) were reported by 22% (60/314) of the subjects.

In addition, early return of ovulation has been reported with this drug. There are medical and emotional concerns relating to short interpregnancy intervals in general, and following stillbirth or neonatal death in particular. Thus, if you do use this drug to stop lactation, please discuss with your partner your intentions regarding subsequent pregnancy. If you would rather not become pregnant immediately, consider using one or more methods for preventing pregnancy.


when pumping or breastfeeding has commencedafter a later neonatal death

[tash]   Ending lactation after having pumped or even breast fed has its own set of issues. Your body is now programmed (even if you only did this briefly—in my case, six days) to produce milk to feed a child every 2-3 hours. You can go cold turkey, but it's painful. A more comfortable way is to wean your body off, let it know you need less, less often, and gradually it will reach that conclusion as well. Start immediately by reducing the time you pump (if you've been pumping 15 minutes per breast, go down to 10 for starts), and increasing the time in between pumps (if you've been going 2 hours, try stretching it to 3).

Depending how much you produce, you may need a day per change, or you may be able to stretch time in between from your morning sessions to your afternoons. Sometimes you may find if you simply let down (the ejection reflex that occurs after a minute or so of starting the pumping action) you'll feel some relief and can now go another few hours. Often when pumping consultants tell you to envision your baby or look at his/her picture to increase flow. Obviously it will be impossible at this point in time NOT to think of your child, but distracting yourself to the best of your ability will also signal to your body that you're not interested. I read a really graphic murder mystery during weaning myself off. A mindless tv program would probably work equally as well.

If you don't have a pump, you may want to occasionally bring the same relief by manual expression. There are some good graphics and instructions here (with no pictures of babies) if you are interested in this.

 

donating your milk

If you find yourself with milk that your baby didn't get a chance to eat, either stored in NICU or in your home freezer, you may be interested in donating it. Unfortunately, it is not always as easy or as straightforward as it should be. While some hospitals run their own donation and pasturazition programs that use the milk exclusivery for other NICU babies, others work with milk banks or do not offer this service at all. Here is a fairly comprehensive, if longish, summary of the different options available to you. While we present a mix of a short summary and our own commentary below, please read the full writeup linked above carefully if you decide that milk donation is something you want to pursue.

Three options are available for donating your milk: informal mother-to-mother, donation to an HMBANA milk bank, or donations to organizations that pose as something very much like a milk bank (and sometimes call themselves that as well), but in reality sell your donated milk to a company called Prolacta Bioscience, allowing the company to make considerable profit. While donating to an HMBANA milk bank comes with hoops to jump and certain restrictions apply (such that some women are excluded from donating—check their policies), you can be sure that once you donate your milk, it will go to benefit NICU babies. Mother-to-mother donations are much easier, and are greatly facilitated in the age of the internet—just go here to start. I (Julia), for example, was very touched when a close friend donated some of her milk in my son's name to a family in a nearby city.

Donating to milk depots (organizatons that sell all or part of the donated milk to Prolacta Bioscience) is something you should consider very carefully. Contracts signed with such organizations are often rather restrictive of your rights to your milk or the information learned from it. In addition, whether or not you are comfortable with someone making a profit on your donated milk is something you will have to decide for yourself. One prominent organization acting to a large degree as a milk depot is The International Milk Project. Their front page avertises the charity work of sending breast milk to Africa. However, if you dig around, you will find that 75% of the donated milk is sold to Prolacta Bioscience (although the chart does not disclose that the milk is sold to Prolacta, or that Prolacta makes a nice profit on it), and only 25% makes its way to Africa.

This is also the organization running the Madison Cassady program, a program that allows mothers who experienced neonatal death to donate their milk. Unfortunately, their web page is somewhat deceiving, stating "The gift of giving this donation of life through our Madison Cassady Program can be emotionally healing and fulfilling to both the grieving mother and life saving to the receiving baby." However, unless the mother goes through the entire qualification process and enters the regular pool of donors, no milk donated by her through this program actually reaches any babies. Instead, all milk donated through the relaxed qualification requirements ends up with Prolacta Bioscience and is used for research.

Only you can decide whether you are comfortable with milk depots in general and The International Milk Project in particular, but we urge caution. If you are not interested in undergoing extensive milk bank qualification procedures, we encourage you to consider the person-to-person donation.



Finally, everything works differently for everyone, and you may need to go through a few steps or suggestions before something works for you.  If you find something that worked for you that's not included here, please let us know so we can add it to the list of suggestions.

Reader Comments (20)

I had the opposite issue - my baby died and I wanted to pump milk for the milk bank for as long as I could - it just felt better for some good to come from the situation - but my boobs gave up the ghost about 6 weeks after.

May 3, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterellie

Ellie that's amazing that you even wanted to and did for so long. I wanted to shut everything down and forget any of it ever happened. As fast as possible. I was able to donate my week's worth, and there was no way I was continuing to pull out that pump any more. Good for you.

May 7, 2008 | Registered Commentertash

i pumped for a month after olive died just to prove that my body could function as it should. i could not give my milk to a bank because of my blood transfusions but just had to do something to get past the feeling of total failure. the lactation specialist at the hospital said "whatever helps us get through it" which made me feel like less of a freak. eventually my supply dwindled and i stopped. but some nights i would sit there with the pumps on my breasts and imagine it was draining the sadness from me in little milky tears. how dramatic! but it felt right at the time.

May 11, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterwendy-o w.

Oh wendy, my heart. I could see you there, that link to olive, that link to what's ordinary and normal, and it just filled up my heart tonight for you.

May 11, 2008 | Registered Commenterkate

I remember those early days, and feeling like it was just another reminder of what I'd lost. It felt like being kicked while I was already down...that my body would continue to go on with the "living process" even though my world had stopped. It was rough and lasted about a week for me after Nathaniel was stillborn. I remember hugging a HUGE bag of frozen peas for as long as I could handle it....and crying...so much crying.

This is an amazing site. It's so necessary for Mother's experiencing loss to know that they are not alone...to know that someone else uderstands what they are thinking and feeling and going through. Thank you for pulling this together.

May 19, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterPatti

I had heard of donating breast milk for sick babies, and so I asked at the hospital if someone could help me make arrangements. I was at a smallish suburban hospital, and no one there knew anything about it. I was so determined that there had to be a way to make it happen that I asked them to bring me a breast pump anyway, so I could start my body on a regular pumping schedule. Looking back I must have seemed crazy.
With some help from my mother and husband, I tracked down Mother's Milk Bank of North Texas. There is quite a bit of screening, as you mentioned, but it was comparable to being a blood donor and nothing unreasonable. They are non-profit, and donations go to actual babies and not to labs, they require a doctor's prescription.
I pumped every 6 hours around the clock for the last 6 weeks, and I just weaned this past week in preparation for going back to work. As I read that, it seems sort of obsessive. But I am so grateful I did it. I had been very committed to breastfeeding Oliver and am a huge believer in the value of it, it broke my heart to waste the milk my body was working so hard to make for my lost son. I also work in a large county hospital with a huge NICU, and so many of the babies can't tolerate formula but their moms are unable to pump enough milk for them due to premature delivery or other problems. My boss's daughter was born at 24 weeks, and she tells heartbreaking stories of her NICU physicians and nurses explaining again and again how much her weak, sick baby needed breast milk, and that she would pump and pump until her nipples bled only to get one ounce, or maybe two on a really good day. What an incredible gift I had to offer, then, that I could pump 8 ounces in a sitting without any trouble or complications. And what better way to honor my son. And I hope, had we suffered a different tragedy and had a need like that that I could not fill, that another mother would have reached out anonymously to help me and my child.
It's obviously not for everyone, and as the milk bank volunteers told me "if it brings you more pain than peace, don't do it." But feeling that I might ease some other family's suffering or help strengthen a frail baby was probably my greatest comfort immediately following Oliver's death. It was one tiny, good thing that could be pulled from something so horrible, and it helped me forgive my body for what felt like the ultimate betrayal.
I'm sorry if this is more than anyone wanted to know about milk banking or if I've offended anyone for whom it was not the right choice. I am not posting the link to the organization I donated to, their website is covered in smiling, healthy babies. If, however, there is anyone out there interested in this I am happy to help in any way I can on a more private basis.

May 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSarah

I found sudafed helped.

July 14, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRebecca
My daughter, Julia, was stillborn in January, at about 36 weeks. I don't know why or where I got the idea, but when the midwives at the hospital began regaling me with tips on how to suppress lactation, I immediately responded that I was going to donate my milk. I ended up pumping and donating for about 13 weeks; it was an extremely healing, emotional, difficult time but I do not regret one moment of it. I honestly believe it greatly facilitated my healing process.

The reason I am sharing this is to suggest another resource for mums that may want to donate: the Milkshare community on Yahoo. After researching milk banks and finding it all very impersonal and business-like, I was very happy to find a place to speak to other mothers about private donation. I received dozens of gentle, appreciative request's for Julia's milk. I ended up donating to a family whose baby girl was born just a few days after I started pumping. Her mother is HIV+ and couldn't breastfeed. It felt so right and I felt equally blessed to have met them and been part of that little one's nurturing. The lovely part is that while some women package and ship their milk, they do encourage local donation, so that you may get to know the recipient family.

Through all of it, reading all offers from donors, I was very surprised to see there weren't more loss mums doing this. Though I understand the painful, sad aspect of giving your dead baby's milk to someone else, I honestly felt, for me, there wasn't any other way. It was obviously a harrowing time, but the two things doing this offered me were priceless: a focus through those sleepless, blurred-together, zombie-like days and nights, and even more importantly: I learned quickly that trying to find a reason or meaning in our daughter's death was impossible, frustrating, and very painful, but the fact that something, even a little something, good could come of it, was the ultimate way I could honor her short, but very meaningful life.

Aside, thank you all of you beautiful women for sharing yourselves and your lives so openly, from the bottom of my scarred, but hopeful heart.
September 6, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMaria Belen
Maria, thank you so, so much for sharing this. What you did was such an honouring of your little girl, and I can imagine how it must have helped you in some way to feed a child thanks to her presence with you.
Light and peace to you tonight, and thanks for being here.
xo
September 7, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterkate
When my milk came in 3 days after my daughter Sonja was born and then died 35 mins later I cried. My midwifes had brought me some stillborn tea and I had been drinking it regularly but my milk came anyway. I wanted to donate my milk but I could not find anyway to do it, this was Jan of 2006. At first I felt sad and didn't want my milk to come but another part of me felt joy that my body was performing as it should and was amazed at this wonderful phenomena. My midwiifes had told me to try not to express any milk as to not encourage my supply but one evening my breasts became so engourged and painful that I got out my breast pump and tried it out. I expressed 4 oz in a matter of minutes, looking at it I felt a connection to my daughter. I decided that I wanted to pump my milk for awhile and to marvel in it. I felt like a superhero that was unable to help. I wanted to feed babies whose mother's could not. I started to wean the pump and pumped less and less as the days went on. I eventually stopped pumping and my supply went down at around 5 weeks. This was the right thing for me to do, it was healing. When I had my son Jan of this year (2008) I took out my pump at around 6 weeks to start to build up a freezer supply and was reminded of pumping off my milk that Sonja never got to drink. It made me feel that Julian was using her hand me downs and it felt normal.
September 14, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterScarlett
Taking Sudafed (the old version you have to get from the pharmacist now) for a few days helped it go away pretty quickly.
July 6, 2009 | Unregistered Commenteranon.
god, what a thing to go through. i send you positive vibes and luck.
July 22, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterZara
My dear friend's 4 week old daughter passed away over the weekend. The family is overwhelmed with grief- are there any support groups you can recommend for my friend and her husband in Chicago? Also, I found all of your tips regarding stopping breast milk production very helpful. Are there any safe medications that can speed up this process? (I keep coming across 'Bromocriptine', but seems that it has dangerous side effects.)
September 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterElizabeth
My little baby died just a few days ago, minutes after he was born. I've been looking up the internet for tips on how to stop lactation and i found a few similar to the ones posted here but i can't seem to bring myself to start the process. I feel like it's my connection to my baby. I feel so sad that he's gone and i didn't even have the chance to get to know him or to show him how beautiful the world is. whenever i go out, i always find myself wondering what would it be like if he was here. Anyway, I'm not sure if I'll ever decide whether to stop lactation or not because i can't find the heart to let go of the memory of my little baby boy.

Thank you so much for the tips and to the women who shared their wonderful stories here. It's so sad that we all have to go through this but they're all in a better place now.
September 30, 2009 | Unregistered Commenteremma
I pumped for the two weeks my daughter was in the NICU, and ended up bringing about 100 oz of frozen milk home from the hospital, which we later donated to the local milk bank. I don't even remember how I stopped lactation, because it was during the time our daughter was home with us under hospice care and I was so focused on savoring every moment I had with her. But I do remember the bittersweet pride I took in all that frozen milk... at least my body was able to do something right and help someone else.

Another consideration with stopping lactation is the hormone drop, especially if one has been pumping or nursing. Lactation releases oxytocin, the "feel-good" hormone, and oxytocin withdrawal can lead to depression. As if it wasn't depressing enough to lose a baby, the hormones make it even worse. So, that's something to keep in mind when abruptly stopping lactation: be prepared for the sudden drop in oxytocin and its after-effects.
October 21, 2009 | Unregistered Commentermama jen
I just recently found this site. I had written on my own blog about my experience stopping lactation after pumping and breastfeeding for 2 months.
http://theduncansonline.blogspot.com/2009/05/losing-child-while-breastfeeding.html

I took Lecithin, as it helps the body emulsify fats, and can reduce clots and the mastitis infections clots can cause. It helped reduce the painful clots. I also only pumped as minimally as necessary to work out clots and relive pressure, spreading out the time between pumps for as long as I could stand.

As mama jen mentioned, I think the affect of the hormone release during lactation is *really* important to understand, as well. It didn't really help me feel any less utterly miserable, but knowing that the supreme misery during pumping was hormones messing with me helped a little.
October 27, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMelissa
I remember how sad and depressed I was by the fact that I was producing milk with no baby to feed. I couldn't wait for it to just stop. I bound my breasts with a tight sports bra but what worked for me in the end were the cold cabbage leaves on my breasts. I kept them on until they wilted and would immediately replace the wilted leaves with new ones. I remember how I just could not wait for the milk to stop. I desperately wanted to get pregnant again right away, to fill the void, and the milk production was keeping me from that goal. I needed it to stop to go forward mentally and physically. I so wish that I knew of this site then. There's so much information on the internet about how to enhance milk production, so little on how to stop it.
October 29, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAnne Marie
We had Juliet on October 10, 2009. She lived for almost two hours. I have been pumping my milk and donating through community donation for the past five weeks. Now that I am back at work I am planning to stop pumping. I wonder if I will regret losing this last tangible connection to my sweet little girl.

I was so glad to find this site tonight.
November 13, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKatie
After I lost my son Sawyer at 37 weeks my midwife suggested that I take Sage and Parsley. The Sage was a liquid form and I would add about 30 drops to juice (preferably V8 or Orange or Grape or another strong tasting juice to mask the flavor) 4 times a day. The Parsley was in capsule form and again, I took the recommended dosing 4 times a day. This along with the cabbage leaves in my bra and The Shower Hug http://www.mom4life.com/catalog.php?item=806 to help bind my breasts, helped a lot!

Sending hugs to all the mothers who have to face this!
January 5, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterHeather L
My son was born still , 2.5 weeks ago, after dying inside me at 38 weeks. I tried the sage and peppermint herbals to get through the engorgement. but now I can't let those precious drops of milk go. a couple times a day I hand express a little just to make sure it's still there. Which sounds crazy, but it's one thing I have to show that there ever was a baby. I never responded well to the pump when my 5 y.o. was still nursing, but now I wonder if I should try again. We have a strong milksharing community in this town.
February 21, 2010 | Unregistered Commentersadkitty

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